"Oh, here comes the cannonball guy. He's Cool."
"Are you being sarcastic , dude?"
"I don't even know anymore."

I am from Vancouver, very close to Seattle. Flannel was NEVER ironic. We started wearing that shit in the 70s and never stopped. They were just the lower middle class uniform and a hold over from the domestic punk scene. They have slowly been replaced by long sleeve t-shirts and hoodies. The same goes for Cowichan sweaters - which you will not know.

You need to do another Ramen-Off.

It's the Wing Bowl.
HUGE in Pittsburgh.

Oh yeah,

Cioffi suggested that an ironic hipster nerd would wear a fanny pack.

Sadly, some super ironic super hipster nerds (hipsterds?) have taken it a few steps further over -the-line.

http://www.cap-sac.com

As a greater-Seattle-area lifelong resident, I agree with laxdude, flannel is easy and comfortable, not ironic: irony implies caring about the look, the grunge look was more of a statement against fashion, rather than a separate, alternative fashion.

And fanny packs are always bad, ALWAYS

Fanny packs are, however, very utilitarian.

You'd be screwed in an ontological debate about them though.

Now Andy,

The cap-sac is one of the most unfortunate fashion mishaps I have ever seen. It seems like they would be utilized by the world's worst drug dealer. First, the brilliant fluorescent color would cause attention to said pusher even on the most dimly lit of streets. Secondly, when approached by the police, the natural inclination is to throw stuff out of the pockets. This hat would leave the dealer like a sitting duck with tons of contra band right on their head.

No haberdasher of any standing would ever fashion such headgear.

Now Tod.

In such a situation, one could easily "ditch the stuff" with an epic headbang.

Here's the real problem... NOTHING is Ironic. Not since the mid 90's. Alanis Morrisette killed the concept with 10,000 spoons (there were no knives available).

Let's break down the Cioffi/ Hardy situation. Ed Hardy makes lighters. They do this to make a profit, have people light stuff with them, and display them for others. Cioffi buys the lighters, posts a twitpic of them for potentially the entire world to see, and uses them to light his smokes. Um, yeah, I totally see how he's fighting the machine on that one...

The real problem with Ed Hardy is that it is "Trailer Couture." You're buying a rather expensive piece so you can look like trailer trash. Oddly, if you do live in a trailer, you might shop for clothes at Target, and you would probably be better dressed.

Freddy Tinkleman -- Joke Killer

No comedy is safe!

Tuesdays at 10pm on NBC

Will Freddy kill it?

Doesn't there have to be a joke before it can be killed? Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes...

To be fair, I didn't get to the end of this show. So I'm sorry if I stepped on any hot Alanis Morrisette humor. Other than that, people who support Ed Hardy really get my blood boiling. This is a real problem, and I think Cioffi may have to kill himself...

HACK A-L-EEERT!!!

HACK A-L-EEERT!!!

Stop stealing John Salwin's line Freddy!

"I'll be good Marc, so good, day date..." You guys are so full of hijinx.

Eh, Tinkleman's a hack. Sure, he does a good impression of me, but he needs material. And a "Donate Now" button.

"The Real John Salwin"? Ummmm....

Is it ironic that Freddy mentioned that you would be better dressed if you shop at Target? Because the now SELL Ed Hardy at Target.

id wear a pretty good podcast thsirt ironically. like a holocaust survivor wearing a Skrewdriver tshirt

thank you.

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